Comments on: The Ajax Spoof http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/ Just A Thought...on Ajax, usability, software development and anything else that catches my fancy. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:49:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: The Music Nazi » Why Ajax Sucks (most of the time) http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-81 The Music Nazi » Why Ajax Sucks (most of the time) Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:01:31 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-81 [...] Funny, though I am not sure I totally agree with this recent (and bogus) AJAX discussion as I have been using the concepts at my new employer, KnowNow and in the Gmail email client. The KnowNow RSS reader, publishing tool, and admin tools all use the AJAXREST format in UI implementation as does Gmail. AJAX is used to create a more Web 2.0 (interactive Web) experience using “Asynchronous JavaScript and XML” enabling browser updates with out refreshes. I am sure we can all see the value inherent in that paradigm. The funny thing is that KnowNow has had the capability before Gmail (and AJAX for that matter) ever existed… [...] […] Funny, though I am not sure I totally agree with this recent (and bogus) AJAX discussion as I have been using the concepts at my new employer, KnowNow and in the Gmail email client. The KnowNow RSS reader, publishing tool, and admin tools all use the AJAXREST format in UI implementation as does Gmail. AJAX is used to create a more Web 2.0 (interactive Web) experience using “Asynchronous JavaScript and XML” enabling browser updates with out refreshes. I am sure we can all see the value inherent in that paradigm. The funny thing is that KnowNow has had the capability before Gmail (and AJAX for that matter) ever existed… […]

]]> By: Nate http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-72 Nate Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:30:31 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-72 Well, I don't think people should feel too bad about being caught up in the spoof - it really was spot on and made some excellent points. I do think Ajax is pretty great (hey, I did write a book about it!) but it isn't the right solution for everything. Undoubtedly, we will see some really poor uses but that is natural with any new technology/technique. Heck, we've been writing web apps for nearly 10 years, thick apps for over 30, mainframe apps forever...and we still find ways to screw those up. Like most anything, the truth is in the middle. Ajax won't cure all the world's ills and it isn't evil...it can make significant improvements to the user experience when done properly. Hopefully the "Slashdotting" will bring more attention to Ajax abuse without quelling Ajax development! Well, I don’t think people should feel too bad about being caught up in the spoof - it really was spot on and made some excellent points. I do think Ajax is pretty great (hey, I did write a book about it!) but it isn’t the right solution for everything. Undoubtedly, we will see some really poor uses but that is natural with any new technology/technique. Heck, we’ve been writing web apps for nearly 10 years, thick apps for over 30, mainframe apps forever…and we still find ways to screw those up. Like most anything, the truth is in the middle. Ajax won’t cure all the world’s ills and it isn’t evil…it can make significant improvements to the user experience when done properly. Hopefully the “Slashdotting” will bring more attention to Ajax abuse without quelling Ajax development!

]]> By: Jonex http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-67 Jonex Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:55:33 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-67 Even if it's a spoof, it's valid. Ajax share a lot of he disadvantages with frames. That's why you always should consider alternative before using Ajax. But for sites like gmail it works quite fine, I never send a link to a recieved mail, I'll send the mail itself if I want to. But te no-ajax version still is important since that enables me to check my mail even when using Safari. +3 Insightful, +1 Spoof. Even if it’s a spoof, it’s valid. Ajax share a lot of he disadvantages with frames. That’s why you always should consider alternative before using Ajax. But for sites like gmail it works quite fine, I never send a link to a recieved mail, I’ll send the mail itself if I want to. But te no-ajax version still is important since that enables me to check my mail even when using Safari.

+3 Insightful, +1 Spoof.

]]> By: Ajax sucks spoof - If..Else Log http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-66 Ajax sucks spoof - If..Else Log Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:04:36 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-66 [...] Chris McEvoy has now added spoof notices for the Ajax sucks article which managed to get featured on Slashdot. [...] […] Chris McEvoy has now added spoof notices for the Ajax sucks article which managed to get featured on Slashdot. […]

]]> By: Bâshrat the Sneaky http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-65 Bâshrat the Sneaky Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:10:48 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-65 Well, it *did* catch me :p. But if it had not been published on Slashdot, I would never have come accross it. Nice spoof anyway :D I commented it in my blog, <a>over here</a>. Well, it *did* catch me :p. But if it had not been published on Slashdot, I would never have come accross it. Nice spoof anyway :D

I commented it in my blog, over here.

]]> By: Daniel Puzey http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-64 Daniel Puzey Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:41:55 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-64 I notice it made Slashdot despite the spoof though... some people will never read to the end... I notice it made Slashdot despite the spoof though… some people will never read to the end…

]]> By: Nate http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-62 Nate Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:40:44 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-62 Thanks Chris - I really enjoyed the spoof! Thanks for putting it out there, you've started a very useful conversation. I hope this gets people thinking about Ajax from the proper perspective: how does it help our users? Thanks for the comment! Thanks Chris - I really enjoyed the spoof! Thanks for putting it out there, you’ve started a very useful conversation. I hope this gets people thinking about Ajax from the proper perspective: how does it help our users? Thanks for the comment!

]]> By: Chris McEvoy http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-60 Chris McEvoy Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:18:35 +0000 http://ntschutta.com/jat/2005/12/07/the-ajax-spoof/#comment-60 Thanks for the thoughful post. You are spot on in your observations and I never intended for it to be taken this seriously. I have mentioned your post in the comments section for "Hurrinace Ajax". Thanks for the thoughful post. You are spot on in your observations and I never intended for it to be taken this seriously.

I have mentioned your post in the comments section for “Hurrinace Ajax”.

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